Untimed events move one day backwards

[MacGadget]

As mentioned in the old bug forum.... Untimed events move one day backwards, when they get a 00:00 timestamp. I`m using DateBK on my Tungsten and have small software named "Feiertage" which puts in birthdays, holiday or official days off. But there you can´t create timed events, so what to do now?

[sappenin]

Just to be sure we're on the same page...where does Fiertage "live"? Is that a program that runs on your Palm device, or does this actually run in Windows and interface with the Palm Desktop directly?

I'll look into how PalmPod deals with Datebook events at 00:00 hours. Not to be redundant, but have you verified that Windows and the iPod are operating in the same time zone with the same DST settings? Also, with version 1.0.1 of PalmPod, you need to make sure that PalmPod reflects the above 2 settings in its first Options dialog.

Let me know how/where Fiertage works, and I'll look some more into this issue.

Thanks!

David

[MacGadget]

Hi David,

"Feiertage" is a small programm, which is located on the Palm device. The Palm and the Windows/Palm Desktop are in the same timezone. All entries are timed correctly exept the untimed ones. Feiertage is listed as version 1.5a on palmgear (rather old, actual is 2.5). I can send you a copy via mail, its freeware.

Regards,

Frank.

[sappenin]

Hi,

Would you be able to email me a link to the Fiertage website? I found http://www.nhueck.de but my German is a bit rusty, and I want to be sure I get the same software that you have. Also, just to clarify, there is no Windows/Palm Desktop component to Feiertage (it strictly runs on the handheld?).

Thanks!

David

[pipaluk]

I am using PalPod 1.0.2 with Palm Desktop 4.1.1 and am having the same problem. Both my Win XP machine and my iPod are set to GMT with DST activated and both indicate the same time but events with no time appear as 00:00 on the previous day. Otherwise this is an excellent piece of software-Thanks!

[MacGadget]

Hi David,

just came back from a trip to Norway..... Feiertage can be found here:
http://pdassi.de/product.php?prod_id=85 ... 449613e5d6

And yes, the program runs only on the handheld. In the software you can define a user field in the contacs as Geburtstag: XX.XX.XXXX/Birthday: XX.XX.XXXX. The programs scans the database and repeats this date every year with the correct age in the calendar. Also holidays or for religious people days of the catholic church can be filled in the calendar. All as untimed events :-(. Thats where the hook with PalmPod 1.0.2 appears. I tried the new version, but it didn´t work out as expectec.

I tried to work around with DateBK, but then you can´t update the events with the "Feiertage"-software.

[sappenin]

I did some more research into this bug.

It appears that Feiertage is saving untimed Calendar entries with a time entry that is equal to 00:00:00. This is inherently flawed, since depending on what timezone you're in (say you're in EST), this represents 8:00pm of the previous day -- This would explain your "untimed events showing up 1 day before" problem.

The Palm Desktop has a flag to represent "untimed" events which will leave the time component off entirely. When these events are exported to the iPod, they will show up as being at 12:00am (Unfortunately, the iPod has no concept of "untimed" events, so it just displays them at 12:00am on the correct day, regardless of what timezone you're in). PalmPod is doing the right thing here (i.e., leaving the "time component" out of untimed events), however the iPod is just quirky once it processes things.

As for a workaround in PalmPod, I'm afraid I don't have one. I can't simply flag all events that start at "00:00:00" because for certain timed events, this is a legitimate starting time. I guess the best thing to try would be to get the Feiertage developer to flag the Palm events that don't have a time as being "untimed".

One last thing, you indicated that you're using Feiertage version 1.5. Have you tried the latest version of Feiertage? The bug may have been fixed.

Thanks!

David